Son #1 here posting this for posterity’s sake: this is an interview my father did back around Thanksgiving with Mike O’Neil of the “Think Tank” on KTAR 92.3FM:
And here is the official blurb on it:
Conservatives are prone to think that the answer to crime is severe punishment. Liberals are traditionally more concerned with rehabilitation. It is pretty hard to design a program that appeals to both groups.
There is a program in Maricopa County that would seem to have something for everyone. The Restorative Justice Construction project assigns probationers with construction skills to work details that involve undertaking construction projects for legitimate and needy nonprofits. The nonprofits generally contribute needed materials, while this program provides the labor.
Worthy charitable entities get much needed work done. Since participating probationers include both master craftsmen and apprentices, the latter often get to develop marketable job-related skills. And court-mandated work requirements are met by doing things that are more useful to the community than picking up trash.
Attorney Dave Tierney has been involved with this program for many years. We discuss how the program evolved, what it takes to make the program work, how it differs from less successful programs using prison labor and what are the obstacles to replication of this program elsewhere.
You can find the original interview posted here. You can also find an interview I did with him and my Mom here on my podcast. If you want to hear more interviews like these from my Dad please leave a comment here on the topics on which you’d like to have his opinion.